Summery and Future Plans

So i just wanted to write a summery and put all the theories together and how i think they fit, as well as my plans for the future. People who know the whole story and have been following along can skip ahead to the plan.

SO! The story so far:

My friend moved into a new place. He heard noises in the woods and found what he described as a "Stick Shrine" next to a dead deer.

when spring rolled around we decided to go camping in these woods. we hiked up a mountain, found a place to camp on a cliff and documented it all.

 

In addition to recording a terrifying scream, we found a mysterious radio signal. Users here identified it as an SSTV signal with this image embedded in the signal. Users here hypothesized it as a cherokee language saying "come with me".

I pledged to go back out into the woods and record the whole signal. In the meantime i learned that there was actually a B-29 bomber plane crash. In the crash there was supposedly an 'unauthorized woman" aboard whose body was never discovered. Some people think the scream belongs to the woman.

My friend and I went out to record the signal. We found it, recorded it, and promptly got lost in the woods. We found two "Stick Shrines" and a row of bare sticks leading to (or away from) a tree. Eventually we find our way back to the car and run away from the scary scream in the woods.

 

Users here decoded the radio signal. The images are here:

The images are of a propeller as can be seen here in a comparison.

The other image is of a woman with the word "woman" written in cherokee language over it. I'm guessing this has something to do with the unauthorized woman on the plane.

The two text images say, "Come with me" and "Locked away". I take this as maybe the woman being locked away, and whatever wanting me to follow it deeper into the woods. maybe follow the stick path? We didn't fully explore the path in the other direction since we were more concerned with getting off the mountain in the video.

Each image is stamped with "IAO" which either stands for the Information Awareness Office or Isis, Apophis, Osiris which is "Birth", "Destroyer", then "Afterlife", or in Hebrew, IAO is also the equivalent of 666. Maybe it stands for both.

So, theories...

Plane goes down, woman on the plane survives or is kidnapped and held against her will, secret messages are sent out.

Plane goes down, unathorized woman is burned to death, her spirit haunts the area.

I dont know, I really dont have many other theories. The scream and the signalcould be totally unrelated. or everything could be part of some giant conspiracy. I don't know if we have enough pieces of the puzzle to figure it out now. So thats why I'm going to find more pieces.

THE PLAN

Sunday, weather permitting, I'm going to the crash site on hawkes mountain. It is adjacent to the ridge we camped on, but its only about 5 miles between peaks. We will try and find any other clues we can there. I think we'll find more since it will be close to the actual disaster, but who knows. we could find nothing.

THEN! May 14th-17th we are going camping for 4 days to map the entire mountain and hopefully find the source of the radio signal. If we can find the source, i have a feeling a lot of the mystery will be cleared up.

So thats the plan. If there is any advice, suggestions, theories, or things you'd like us to do, post it below. Keep in mind that we don't have any money for things like night vision cameras, remote audio recorders, or other high-tech this that and the other. sorry.

Shit Hits The Fan

Originall posted at http://www.reddit.com/r/creepy/comments/bsj4u/its_me_again_the_creepy_vt_camping_guy_you_guys/ on 18 Apr 2010

 

again, this is a continuation of this post. This is turning out to be quite the saga.

OK, It's late, and i just got back from GETTING FUCKING LOST IN THE FUCKING CREEPY WOODS. im tired. im scared. some shit happened and i got most of it on video (the new batteries held up) but i don't think any of you will believe me. i don't blame you, cause i dont even believe me.

to get to the point, yes we found the radio signal. i managed to get a nice long clip of the signal loops. i'm counting on you guys to help me decode it again.

shit went bad though. real bad. shortly after we found the signal my buddy found one of those "branch shrines" i talked about in the very first post. I know now why he was freaked out. they were definitely deliberately placed there. there were no dead animals by it, but that made me feel worse. i think we may have been intended to be the next dead animals...

After getting home and reflecting on the trip ive come to the conclusion that we were being stalked. and i no longer believe that it was a wild cat or any of the other theories. its too much. the radio signal, the shrine. its got to be man made. there is someone out there. or something. i dont know. i really think im lucky to be alive. im rattled now. im rambling. maybe i'll feel better once its not so fresh or you can all talk me down. but right now, im freaked.

anyways, after we were done recording the signal and taking pictures of the shrine we left. but we must have gotten turned around somehow. we ended up at another shrine. and we kept hearing noises in the woods. i know it was raining and it could have been anything, but this time i really felt panic. i kept trying to joke in the video with my buddy and just laugh about it, but you can tell we were both on edge...

we tried to find our way back to the first shrine and retrace our path, but we got lost more. that is until we found a path of sticks. i dont know how to describe them, and they are hard to see in the video, but it was a line of sticks sticking out of the ground that just led to a strangely dry (considering it was raining) tree.

my buddy then said he saw something walking out in the woods. and i heard it, but didnt see it. at that point we really started to high tail it down the bank. along the way we found some other weird things, but the worst part was right at the end. we kept hearing something in the woods following us. we kept our voices quiet and just headed to the edge of the woods. somehow we managed to find ourselves in familiar area and when we finally saw the edge we could see my car through all the trees.

i whispered to my friend that i could see the end and thats when we heard whatever was stalking us move. annd i mean move. it was kind of like a crash in the woods. we could hear the crunches in the woods coming towards us, like it was running. but not quite like steady running rhythm... i dont know. im actualyl crying right now. you guys will think im a pussy and this whole thing probably isnt coherent. but the end, i had my camera in my hand... i turned it on. right as it made the noise. and since it was so close you'll know how fucking loud it was. its not an animal. its siply not. its way too loud. you'll hear it in the video. it was the scream and we were runnning and runnning and we made it to my car and i just drove. we got out and, guys, i dontn think im ever going back. im nnot a superstitious person. but i really think my life was in danger. im sorry if im letting any of you down. i really think i stumbled onto something dangerous. ill upload the videos asap. i know i wont be sleeping tonite anyways... and sorry iif you cant make out much of this post, i cant really write coherently right now.

edit: here is the first video. is has the radio signal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn2LyrdqK_o the second video with the rest will be done shortly.

edit 2: second video is up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgM_tRSimqc. im going to try to sleep now. i feel like shit. I'll check back in the morning to answer any questions. i hope someone has the sstv decoded again.

edit 3: Here are the pictures thanks to BurtGervis:

• http://imgur.com/cYIT1.png
• http://imgur.com/hWvK2.png
• http://imgur.com/TPgdf.png

• http://imgur.com/rO2sI.png

• here is the second one, made clearer by oh i get_it: http://i.imgur.com/Z126s.png

and just as a side note. i know this is where we 'jumped the shark'. i dont believe what happened and i certainly dont expect anyone else to. it was just too much. but i give you all my word that it was real, knowing full well that im just some guy on the internet and you have no reason to believe me. this is the turning point where people are either going to believe me or not. i just ask that you try to keep an open mind. if anyone can make sense of the pictures, your help would be appreciated.

as for the scream. ive heard it was a bear. ive heard people say its a cougar. ive heard people say it an owl. ive heard it all and it changes each time. if you go back to the other videos from the camping post, none of them sound like a bear. in fact, i dont even think this one sounds like a bear.. as for my reaction. some people think im laughing. i dont know. thats just how i react. i make jokes, try not to get too into the situation when im scared. i seperate myself. if i were really trying to fake this, i damn sure wouldnt have tried to laugh in it.

im also lucky i had my buddy with me, cause that helps keeps me sane. if not for him i doubt i would have had the courage to make it out. and the gravity of the situation didnt really hit me until i was back at me apartment alone. so, i understand this is the internet. people are going to make fun of this, call it stupid, not believe me, or whatever. thats fine. believe what you want. that was the whole point of me trying to film this all, to just present it and let people make their own decisions. thats all.

Unraveling the Puzzle

This was originally posted at http://www.reddit.com/r/creepy/comments/boovf/we_figured_out_the_sstv_signal_this_is_amazing/ on 09 Apr 2010.

 

continuation of this post

novelty-account & farkas figured out the signal i found. the image can be found here any speculation on what it might mean? I only captured the first few seconds of the signal. i have to go back sometime and capture the rest. maybe next weekend...

 

 

Important Comments:

TheBakeryQueen 5 points6 points7 points 5 days ago* [-]

That looks like 'Kstagua', or 'Kstaqua', which I believe is Cherokee. On top of that it means something like 'go to me' or 'go with me'. Doing a little more research, will expand on this post later.

EDIT: http://www.wehali.com/tsalagi/index.cfm?event=search

From what I can gather of the image, it reads K, either an r or s, t, a, g or q ( you'll notice the tail of the second a is longer, as if it continues), u and a.

From these combinations, it could be one of these words:

Krtagua, Kstagua, Krtaqua, Kstaqua,

etc.

Second edit: If we're going on a supernatural theme here, this might be of interest to you: when a spirit tries to manifest itself, it will drain battery power, or any source of power around it. This gives them the ability to vocalize screams, sounds, carry out physical acts, etc. Not every ghost/spirit can do this.

ducttape36 [S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago* [-]

thanks man, i do believe the cherokee were all around here at one point. although, with the combination of IAO being vaguely evil, and the phrase "go with me" or "come with me" that makes me feel uneasy. even though im not all that superstitious. i just bought two brand new batteries for my camera so next time i go up the radio signal is going high on the list of things to capture.

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ducttape36 [S] 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago* [-]

A quick google search finds IAO as a few things.

• 1st: The Information Awareness Office (IAO) was established by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in January 2002 to bring together several DARPA projects focused on applying surveillance and information technology to track and monitor "terrorists" and other asymmetric threats to national security, by achieving Total Information Awareness (TIA)

• 2nd Iao may refer to an alternate spelling of the Gnostic deity Ialdabaoth i.e. the Demiurge. The demiurge is a concept from the Platonic, Middle Platonic, and Neoplatonic schools of philosophy for an artisan-like figure responsible for the fashioning and maintenance of the physical universe.

• 3rd, and most frightening/creepy... IAO is a formula of Dying Gods, and 'twice-born' religions of the Old Aeon: Isis (birth, natural growth, non-reflective, primitive force), Apophis (Destroyer, analytical process, separation) and Osiris ('rebirth', or Coagula of the famous alchemic formula). As a formula of resurrection, it pertains to Tiphareth, the Sphere of Redeemer which is Son & Sun. Tiphareth is the central sephira of Sephiroth, representing the center of human consciousnes or qabalistic Ruach (more precise: it is the center of Ruach, which comprises Sephiroth from 4 to 9). Additional titles revealing the idea of Beauty are: Microprosopus, Sun, Son, Jeheshua, Adam... "Hebrew transliteration of the Gnostic sacred word IAO is with gematric value 17. Letters . Letters Aleph, Vav and Jod are channels connecting Kether and Tiphareth through Chokmah and Chesed. Value of Aleph is 111 or in another way 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, Vav is 22 or 2 + 2 = 4 and Jod is 20 or 2 + 0 = 2. Thus we obtain the number 342, representing previous three letters. The number 342 equals 666 in the heptad system: 342 = 6 x 72 + 6 x 71 + 6 x 70 = 6667."

option 1 would almost make sense considering the bomber plane that went down under odd circumstance, but that was over 50 years ago...

option 2 & 3 just sound waaaaaaaay out there. definitely creepy.

As for the writing, i can't really make it out... but my guess is it says k-s-t-a-(a,g,q?)-u-a. i dont really know... I need to go back and try to find it again...

A quick google search finds IAO as a few things. * 1st: [The Information Awareness Office (IAO) was established by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in January 2002 to bring together several DARPA projects focused on applying surveillance and information technology to track and monitor "terrorists" and other asymmetric threats to national security, by achieving Total Information Awareness (TIA)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Awareness_Office) * 2nd [Iao may refer to an alternate spelling of the Gnostic deity Ialdabaoth i.e. the Demiurge. The demiurge is a concept from the Platonic, Middle Platonic, and Neoplatonic schools of philosophy for an artisan-like figure responsible for the fashioning and maintenance of the physical universe.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge) * 3rd, and most frightening/creepy... [IAO is a formula of Dying Gods, and 'twice-born' religions of the Old Aeon: Isis (birth, natural growth, non-reflective, primitive force), Apophis (Destroyer, analytical process, separation) and Osiris ('rebirth', or Coagula of the famous alchemic formula). As a formula of resurrection, it pertains to Tiphareth, the Sphere of Redeemer which is Son & Sun. Tiphareth is the central sephira of Sephiroth, representing the center of human consciousnes or qabalistic Ruach (more precise: it is the center of Ruach, which comprises Sephiroth from 4 to 9). Additional titles revealing the idea of Beauty are: Microprosopus, Sun, Son, Jeheshua, Adam...](http://www2.arnes.si/~uljfarh3/david/iao.html) ["**Hebrew transliteration of the Gnostic sacred word IAO is with gematric value 17. Letters . Letters Aleph, Vav and Jod are channels connecting Kether and Tiphareth through Chokmah and Chesed. Value of Aleph is 111 or in another way 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, Vav is 22 or 2 + 2 = 4 and Jod is 20 or 2 + 0 = 2. Thus we obtain the number 342, representing previous three letters. The number 342 equals 666 in the heptad system: 342 = 6 x 72 + 6 x 71 + 6 x 70 = 6667.**"](http://www2.arnes.si/~uljfarh3/david/iao.html) option 1 would almost make sense considering the bomber plane that went down under odd circumstance, but that was over 50 years ago... option 2 & 3 just sound waaaaaaaay out there. definitely creepy. As for the writing, i can't really make it out... but my guess is it says k-s-t-a-(a,g,q?)-u-a. i dont really know... I need to go back and try to find it again...

ContentWithOurDecay 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago[-]

the bomber plane that went down under odd circumstance, but that was over 50 years ago...

Did I miss something?

ducttape36 [S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago* [-]

eh, sort of. i mentioned it once at some point, but i dont think it's really relevant. a b-29 went down in the mountains near where we were camping. and i actually only found out about it after the night we went camping.

eh, sort of. i mentioned it once at some point, but i dont think it's really relevant. a b-29 went down in the mountains near where we were camping. and i actually only found out about it after the night we went camping.

ContentWithOurDecay 0 points1 point2 points 3 days ago[-]

And the mystery continues. You gotta get back out there and record again.

• ducttape36 [S] -1 points0 points1 point 3 days ago[-]

In case you are curious, i found this. again, im a skeptic, and i don't really see a connection between these events. and we were on a different ridge altogether than the one the plane crashed on. but we could see that mountain from the cliff we camped on, its probably only < 5 miles between the peaks as the crow flies. im sure some people who believe in spirits will have fun reading into that.

i will get back soon, maybe this weekend, and record again.

In case you are curious, i found [this](http://www.vermontel.net/~tomh/hawks.html). again, im a skeptic, and i don't really see a connection between these events. and we were on a different ridge altogether than the one the plane crashed on. but we could see that mountain from the cliff we camped on, its probably only < 5 miles between the peaks as the crow flies. im sure some people who believe in spirits will have fun reading into that. i will get back soon, maybe this weekend, and record again.

• ContentWithOurDecay 0 points1 point2 points 3 days ago[-]

Most bizarre of all, the people living in the area of the crash will still tell you of the rumor that there was an unauthorized woman aboard and that her body was never found.

Interesting.

• ducttape36 [S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 days ago[-]

oh shit, i must have missed that. i hope that scream isn't the scream of the woman...

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The Story Begins

This was originally posted on http://www.reddit.com/r/creepy/comments/bm534/back_from_the_creepy_camping_trip_in_vt_heres/ on 04 Apr 2010.

 

This is my follow up from this post. Read that to get the back story.

So we made it up the mountain. we followed an old logging trail that quickly disappeared as we started to climb. there was no path whatsoever once we started our ascent and the terrain was the roughest id ever experienced while backpacking. there were some parts we literally had to get on our hands and knees to climb.

we found an old campfire pit near a cliff that we decided to set camp by. the whole night was actually quite fun and we made light of our situation by joking about the monster the whole time and playing drinking games. we left the gun at home, as guns and alcohol dont mix and we werent going to let a monster ruin our fun. we all did sleep with our knives though.

OK, now for the creepy things:

• we found bone fragments around our campsite.

• we found a ghost radio station. i say ghost station because we found this weird signal on an AM frequency and it disappeared later in the night.

• all our electronic devices kept saying the batteries were dead and shutting off at weird times. you'll see in the video i shot that the camera keeps turning off. in the morning all our devices were fine.

• we heard what sounded like a kid yelling in the woods. i didnt get footage of it, but we all decided it was probably just some bird anyways.

• yes, we captured the sound. it happened around midnight. you'll see in the footage it happens but the camera dies. but it happened a second time and i managed to catch a second of it, but the camera then died for good. the first scream sounded pretty far away, the second one was definitely closer.

This is all stuff you'll see in the videos. as for stuff that wasnt in the videos, well when we all finally went to bed i swear i heard voices in the woods. i was too scared to investigate and my camera stopped working anyways. thats about it. check out the videos and let me know what you think. the first video is mostly our journey to the campsite and getting settled. the weird stuff happens right at the next video. the most intriguing thing i found was the radio signal. it sounded like an emergency broadcast, but no instructions or voice ever came. weird. so check out the videos everyone, let me know what you think.

• Video 1 (hiking and setting up)

  

• Video 2 (weird stuff starts to happen)

  

EDIT: i did some research on the radio signal. i think it might actually be whats called a numbers station. that would explain why it was broadcasting a loop and then disappeared. Can anyone else deduce anything from the signal? despite capturing the scream, im actually most fascinated by this signal.

EDIT 2: farkas identified the radio signal as an SSTV broadcast. After listening to others from youtube, i think i agree with him. does anyone have a decoder that can translate the signal into an image? come on reddit! you're help would be greatly appreciated! we have a mystery to solve!

Edit 3: The signal is decoded! I made a new post with the image here along with speculation on what it means.

The Background

This is where the story starts.  Originally posted to http://www.reddit.com/r/creepy/comments/blhqk/im_going_camping_this_weekend_in_a_vt_creepy/ on 01 Apr 2010.

 

My buddy bought a house last summer. I won't say where exactly it is to protect the identity, but its in the backwoods of VT, miles from any small town even.

over the winter he would often find wildlife in his yard, deer, moose, coy dogs, etc. and he would occasionally hear the crys and howls. pretty normal stuff for vermont woods. but sometimes he heard really, really, odd things. He would tell me about them waking him and his wife up at night but i always just told him thats what he gets for living out in the woods. wildlife can be loud. he always insisted it was more than that, but i never paid attention.

that is until one night a bunch of us were out there watching a movie and we heard it. a very odd noise... and by odd i mean blood curdling inhuman... screams? i guess thats the best way to describe it. but with emphesis on inhuman, as it really didn't sound anything like a human screaming. it wasn't as high pitched and seemed to have multiple layers to it, like more than one voice. (i was a music major, im very good at picking out tones and intervals in sounds. i could tell you which notes are played and how many different ones there are in every car horn.) it sounded very, very close and you could almost feel it vibrating the house. we were all freaked out, but there was no way we were going out there to do anything about it. anyways, we just kind of ignored it and went back to the movie and ate junk food and by the time the night was over we all forgot about it and we went home.

the next day my buddy calls me up and tells me there are tracks all over his backyard. and not really tracks as much as snow just being thrown around like there was a fight or something. there were no actual footprints he could find, but he did notice somewhat of a path made out heading into the woods. so my buddy got brave and ventured into the woods a bit in his snow shoes. he didnt get too far until he started seeing blood. everywhere. he looked around a little bit and saw a dead deer, literally torn apart in the snow. it didnt look like it was really eaten or anything, just ripped apart. one leg completely missing, other just kind of dangling by flesh. gruesome stuff.

Now here's the really creepy part... and i don't know if this is just my buddy's mind going crazy or if he's playing a joke on us or what, but behind the corpse there were broken pine branches stuck straight up in the snow. like, they were deliberately placed there. almost like a shrine or a tombstone made of branches. needless to say, my buddy wised up and got the hell out of dodge and hasnt returned. But of course he didnt have his camera on him to prove it, not that he would have wanted to stick around long enough to take pictures anyways.

as winter wore on he would still hear the noises fairly often in the woods. sometimes at night, less often during the day. He's asked around and no one can really tell him what it could be, but maybe he just isnt describing it very well.

OK, fast forward to now. his property doesnt really go too far back, just a few acres, but there are literally no other houses around and there is this pretty cool mountain that we want to hike and camp out on. We are a bit concerned with whatever "animal" is out there, so we are bringing a gun. honestly though, I've camped out on a lot of the mountains around here and have never run into any problems, but the whole branch shrine thing really freaks me out as that would obviously not be done by an animal.

So tomorrow night is the night we are going to hike up there and camp out. I am bring a camera. someone else is bringing the gun (i hate guns and will avoid being around it, but we all know how to use one in case it warrents it). if anything strange happens i will do my best to capture it on camera and come back to post here. (assuming i come back, haha...)

In the mean time, any advice you guys would have for me? have you ever heard of anything like this happening? is there some crazy backwoods cult or folklore that i havent heard about? I'm going to bed now, but let me know and I'll be checking this space tomorrow during work. I'll also try to answer any questions you have.

tl;dr: something lives in the mountains where my buddies and i are camping. it kills things annd then builds branch shrines to them.

EDIT: i appreciate all the feedback guys! heres the thing, we are doing this mostly for fun. we arent going to actively look for whatever it is thats out there. so we arent going to take fancy A/V equipment or any high tech web stuff. I am bringing a small camera that I've always had good luck with in capturing things in low light.

EDIT 2: We made it back. Some pretty weird stuff happened while we were up there. I didn't really feel threatened at any point. we heard the noise. i tried to get it on tape but my batteries kept inexplicably dying, even after i replaced the battery with a fresh one. i managed to capture some of it though. also worth noting, we found some weird radio station signal. it kind of sounded like the beeps you get before the emergency broadcast system announces something on tv or the radio. There was also a new sound, it sounded kind of like a child yelling, but we passed it off as some some kind of weird bird. Lastly, we found some old bones. pretty small though. I will make a new submission for the video and also link it from here.

Here you go: http://www.reddit.com/r/creepy/comments/bm534/back_from_the_creepy_camping_trip_in_vt_heres/

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